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Christina Grubb1

F, #9044, b. circa 1828, d. 18 May 1885
  • (Witness) Note for Web: Christina Grubb and William Johnston, Henry Grubb, Janet Forgan, Lewis Johnston, Helen Grubb, Euphemia Stewart, Jessie Johnston, Agnes Barrie Johnston, Margaret Woods Johnston, Christina Johnston, Euphemia Stewart Johnston, Isabella Thomson Black Johnston, Georgina Keir Paterson Johnston, Andrew McGlashan, Henry McGlashan, Janet McGlashan and Robert McGlashan was mentioned with William Johnston. Facts and Hypothesis re William Johnston born about 1848 who says his parents are William Johnston, shipwright, and Christina Grubb:

    From various records one could assume that William is born about 1848 in either Fife – maybe Crail, maybe St Andrews – or Dundee. All these possibilities have been explored in the name of Johnson, Jonsen, Johnston(e) and variants; and Grubb without finding a birth/baptism that fits.

    On the 30th March 1851 census there is a 4-year-old child recorded as William Normand living in St Andrews with Henry Grubb and his wife Janet Forgan and who is described as ‘Grandson’ and born in Crail, Fife. No marriage between a Grubb and Normand can be found, and no William Normand was recorded as born/baptised in Scotland in the time frame. So a query exists that this might be William Johnston. But there are likely to be other grandsons who could fit this description. But no other William Johnson or Grubb that fits the profile.

    On the 7th April 1861 census William is declared as 'nephew' aged 13 with Lewis Johnston as head and Helen Grubb as wife, who are living in Fish Street Dundee. William is described as a mill worker born in St Andrews Fife. So William is nephew to whom? It should be stated as relative to the head of the house - Lewis Johnston. Or is it his wife, Helen? Christina Grubb is Helen’s younger sister. Is she William’s mother? Does Lewis Johnston have a brother named William? – Not found.

    On the 2nd April 1871 census William Johnston is found boarding at 7 Keys Close (which is at 18 Nethergate) Dundee, with Elizabeth Morrison as head of the household. William states he is born Dundee, aged 22 and working as a brewer.

    On his marriage three weeks after the census night, on 24 April 1871, William Johnston signs his name and states his parents as William Johnston, shipwright & Christina Grubb, his address as 18 Nethergate Dundee (see census above), his age as 22 and his occupation as bottler.

    On informing of Lewis Johnston's death in 1878, William states he is nephew and his address is 27 Overgate, Dundee. William also states Lewis’ parents as Ormond Johnston, a ploughman, and Euphemia Pratt – no information about this couple or any other similar Johnston family can be found.

    When his 4th daughter (of 7) is born in March 1881, she is named Christina – but this is not an uncommon name of the time.

    On the April 1881 census William states he is 34, and iron work labourer and born Dundee.

    In 1886, on birth of twin daughters, William is living at 27 Overgate, states his occupation as marine stoker and his marriage date as 24 April 1871.

    On the April 1891 census William states he is 46, born Dundee and occupied as a fireman.

    But on his death in 1899, William's wife Euphemia Stewart states his occupation as builder’s donkey engineman, his age as 51 and his parents are Lewis Johnston, seaman, and Helen Grubb. (Because they raised him?)

    On his wife’s death in 1913, his eldest daughter Jessie, says that he was a merchant seaman – but she also records her mother’s age as 49, when she was probably about 62.

    So who to believe?


    If Christina Grubb was Wiiliam’s mother – how would that look?

    Christina Grubb was born about 1828 (no birth/bapt found, but other records suggest this)
    If William is born about 1847/8, then Christina would be aged about 19/20.
    Christina marries Andrew McGlashan in January 1849 in Liverpool. Christina is probably aged 21.
    Christina and Andrew have a son, Robert McGlashan, who is born in Dundee in August 1950.
    The family are recorded in March 1851 in Fish Street Dundee. Christina’s age is stated as 22, Robert as under 1 year.
    Christina and Andrew have a daughter, Janet, in November 1852 in Dundee.
    When both Christina’s parents die within months of each other in 1855, Christina’s age is recorded on both occasions as 27.
    The next time this family is found is in Australia when a headstone in Geelong Eastern Cemetery records Christina’s death in May 1885, aged 57, along with Andrew McGlashan, aged 74, in 1891 and a son, Henry, aged 28, in February 1886. In the absence of records, it is presumed that the family emigrated about 1853.


    It could be hypothesised that Christina Grubb, sister of Helen Grubb, and William Johnson, brother of Lewis, are the parents of William Johnston born about 1848 and that he was probably born in Dundee, probably whilst Christina was staying with her sister Helen and brother-in-law Lewis.

    Further – Christina marries far away from home in Liverpool, but returns to Dundee to live and have her family – at least for a while. In 1851 Christina is living close by to her sister Helen in Fish Street Dundee. Helen has only one surviving child at this time – Jessie – three others have died in infancy, followed by another two who do not survive after 1851. It would make sense for Helen to take in her sister’s child – William Johnston – especially when Christina and her husband emigrate to Australia.


    Extensive research has produced nothing to support any of this suppostition.
  • Birth*: Christina Grubb was born circa 1828.2,3
  • She was the daughter of Henry Grubb and Janet Forgan.1
  • Married Name: As of 29 January 1849, her married name was McGlashan.4
  • Marriage Fact*: Christina Grubb and Andrew McGlashan were Marriage Fact on 29 January 1849 at St Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England; Name Andrew Mcglashan
    Spouse's Name Christiana Grubb
    Event Date 29 Jan 1849
    Event Place St. Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
    Father's Name Robert Mcglashan
    Spouse's Father's Name Henry Grubb
    Marital Status Single
    Spouse's Marital Status Single
    Christiana Grubb
    mentioned in the record of Andrew Mcglashan and Christiana Grubb.5
  • Marriage*: Christina Grubb married Andrew McGlashan on Monday, 29 January 1849 at Liverpool, Lancashire, England; First name(s) Andrew
    Last name Mcglashan
    Name note -
    Marriage year 1849
    Marriage date 29 Jan 1849
    Marriage place Liverpool
    Father's first name(s) Robert
    Father's last name Mcglashan
    Spouse's first name(s) Christiana
    Spouse's last name Grubb
    Spouse's age 0
    Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
    Spouse's father's last name Grubb
    Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    County Lancashire
    Country England
    Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
    Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory Marriages & divorces
    Collections from Great Britain.4
  • (Issue of (1855)) Death: Their parent Janet Forgan died on 26 January 1855 at Market Street, St Andrews, Fife, Scotland; 1855 deaths in the burgh of St Andrews in the county of Fife registered by John Sorley regsitrar, ref 13; Forgan, Janet or Grubb, female aged 72 years, born Crail Fifeshire 45 years in St Andrews, parents Andrew Forgan wheelwright (dec) & Forgan maiden name Agnes Honeyman (dec), married to Henry Grubb shoemaker, issue 1 George 45 dec, 2 Jess 43, 3 Helen 35, 4 Henry 33, 5 Andrew 31, 6 Christian 27, Allison 24; died January Twenty Sixth 7h 50m am, died at Market Street St Andrews, cause pleurisy for 4 days as certified by Thomas Malcolm surgeon who saw deceased January 25th 1855, buried in the Burial Ground of St Andrews as certified by David Scott sexton, signed Henry Grubb + his mark husband, signed John Ba...ry, Catherine W ... witnesses, regsitered 1855 January 29th at St Andrews signed John Sorley registrar.6
  • (Issue of (1855)) Death: Their parent Henry Grubb died on 22 April 1855 at Market Street, St Andrews, Fife, Scotland; 1855 deaths in the burgh of St Andrews in the county of Fife registered by John Sorley registrar, ref 35; Grubb, Henry, shoemaker, male aged 72 years, born parish of Crail county of Fife, 45 years in St Andrews, parents William Grubb gardener (dec) and Helen Grubb maiden name Ramsay (dec), wife Janet Grubb maiden names Forgan (dec), issue 1. George dec at 40 in 1850, 2. Jess aged 43, 3. Helen 35, 4. Henry 33, 5. Andrew 31, 6. Christina 27, 7. Allison 24; died 1855 April Twenty first (scored out & 'second' inserted) 8h pm at Market Street St Andrews, cause confusion of the brain preceeded by a fall backwards down his stairs, 1 day, as certified by Thomas Malcolm surgeon who saw deceased April 22nd 1855, buried Burial Ground of St Andrews as certified by David Scott sexton, informant John Ramsay Inspector of Poor, registered 1855 April 24th at St Andrews John Sorley regsitrar.1
  • (Deceased) Death*: Christina Grubb died on 18 May 1885 at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, First name(s) Christina Grubb
    Last name Mcglashan
    Birth year -
    Death year 1885
    Death date 18 May 1885
    Cemetery Geelong Eastern Cemetery
    City East Geelong
    State Victoria
    Image link http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/Christina-Grubb-McGlashan/6799042
    Country Australia
    Record set Australia Billion Graves cemetery index
    Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory Deaths & burials
    Collections from Australasia.7
  • (Spouse) Death: Her spouse Andrew McGlashan died on 9 August 1891 at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; Name Andrew Mcglashan
    Occupation Contractor
    Death Date 09 Aug 1891
    Event Place Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    Residence City Geelong
    Event Date 11 Sep 1891
    Series Number 46
    Record Number 234.8

Census Events

Member of Household6 June 1841Christina Grubb was listed along with Henry Grubb in the 1841 census at Market Street, St Andrews, Fife, Scotland. Henry Grubb, 50, shoemaker, Fifeshire; Janet Grubb, 50, Fifeshire; Christian Grubb, 9, Fife.9,10
Spouse30 March 1851She was listed in the household of Andrew McGlashan in the 1851 census at Fish Street, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland. Andrew McGlashan Head Married Male 33 1818 Carpenter Newburgh, Fife, Scotland; Christian Grubb Wife Married Female 22 1829 - St Andrews, Fife, Scotland. Robert McGlashan were also listed in the household.11
Last Edited: 17 Oct 2016

Parents:

Father*: Henry Grubb1 b. c 1782, d. 22 Apr 1855
Mother*: Janet Forgan1 b. 19 Jun 1787, d. 26 Jan 1855

Family 1:

William Johnston b. s 1825

Child:

William Johnston+ b. c 1848, d. 14 Sep 1899; On the 1861 William is declared as 'nephew' with Lewis Johnston as head and Helen Grubb as wife.
On the April 1871 census William Johnston is found at 7 Keys Close (which is at 18 Nethergate) Dundee, aged 22 and working as a brewer.
On marriage on 24 April 1871, William Johnston states his parents as William Johnston, shipwright & Christina Grubb, his address as 18 Nethergate Dundee, his age as 22 and his occupation as bottler.
On informing of Lewis Johnston's death in 1978, William states he is nephew and address is 27 Overgate, Dundee.
In 1886, on birth of twin daughters, William is living at 27 Overgate, states his occupation as marine stoker and his marriage date as 24 April 1871.
But on his death, William's wife Euphemia Stewart states his parents are Lewis Johnston and Helen Grubb.12

Family 2:

Andrew McGlashan b. 20 Apr 1817, d. 9 Aug 1891
  • Marriage*: Christina Grubb married Andrew McGlashan on Monday, 29 January 1849 at Liverpool, Lancashire, England; First name(s) Andrew
    Last name Mcglashan
    Name note -
    Marriage year 1849
    Marriage date 29 Jan 1849
    Marriage place Liverpool
    Father's first name(s) Robert
    Father's last name Mcglashan
    Spouse's first name(s) Christiana
    Spouse's last name Grubb
    Spouse's age 0
    Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
    Spouse's father's last name Grubb
    Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    County Lancashire
    Country England
    Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
    Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory Marriages & divorces
    Collections from Great Britain.4

Children:

Robert McGlashan13 b. 19 Aug 1850
Janet McGlashan14 b. 20 Nov 1852
Henry McGlashan7 b. c 1857, d. 13 Feb 1886

Citations

  1. [S50] Unknown subject, International Genealogical Index (IGI) (New Register House, Edinburgh, Scotland: General Record Office of Scotland), GROS Statutory Death 1855 St Andrews Fife 452/01 0035 image held [Oct 2011].
  2. [S50] International Genealogical Index (IGI), GROS Statutory Death of Father 1855 St Andrews Fife 452/01 0035 image held [Oct 2011].
  3. [S50] International Genealogical Index (IGI), GROS Statutory Death of Mother 1855 St Andrews ref 453/01 0013 image held [Mar 2015].
  4. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=r_847416746 [Sep 2016].
  5. [S56] International Genealogical Index (IGI) (Salt Lake City, Utah, USA: International Genealogical Index), ENGLAND MARRIAGES, 1538–1973 ?Indexing Project (Batch) Number M00731-5 System Origin England-EASy GS Film number 1656509 Reference ID it 6, p 71, no 142 CITING THIS RECORD
    "England Marriages, 1538–1973 ," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NN98-M7K : 10
    December 2014), Andrew Mcglashan and Christiana Grubb, 29 Jan 1849; citing St. Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England, reference it 6, p 71, no 142; FHL microfilm 1,656,509. [Sep 2016]
  6. [S50] International Genealogical Index (IGI), GROS Statutory Death 1855 St Andrews ref 453/01 0013 image held [Mar 2015].
  7. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) Australia Billion Graves cemetery index Transcription URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=us%2fbmd%2fbillion%2f009467004 [Sep 2016].
  8. [S56] International Genealogical Index (IGI), Australia, Victoria, index to probate registers           
    Probate index books, M-Mc, 1889-1899
    Citation "Australia, Victoria, Index to Probate Registers, 1841-1989," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-120954-97?cc=1393345 : 20 May 2014), M-Mahood > image 71 of 1323; Public Record Office, Victoria. [Sep 2016]
  9. [S9] Website Ancestry.co.uk (www.ancestry.co.uk) Source Citation: Parish: St Andrews; ED: 4; Page: 7; Line: 1020; Roll: ; Year: 1841. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1841 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: 1841 Scotland Census. Edinburgh, Scotland: General Register Office for Scotland. Reels 1-151. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland. [Oct 2011]
  10. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1841%2f0018274066 [Sep 2016].
  11. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1851%2f0021052025 [Sep 2016].
  12. [S64] Unknown subject, International Genealogical Index (IGI) (New Register House, Edinburgh, Scotland: General Record Office of Scotland), GROS Statutory Marriage 1871 Dundee St Clement ref 282/03 0077 image held [Feb 2008].
  13. [S56] International Genealogical Index (IGI), SCOTLAND BIRTHS AND BAPTISMS, 1564-1950 ?
    Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11282-9
    System Origin Scotland-ODM
    GS Film number 0993405, 0993408, 993403, 993408
    CITING THIS RECORD
    "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB8W-436 : 8
    December 2014), Christina Grubb in entry for Robert Mcglashan, 19 Aug 1850; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 993,405, 993,408, 993,403, 993,408. . [Sep 2016]
  14. [S56] International Genealogical Index (IGI), SCOTLAND BIRTHS AND BAPTISMS, 1564-1950 ?Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11282-9 System Origin Scotland-ODM GS Film number 0993405, 0993408, 993403, 993408 CITING THIS RECORD
    "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB83-DSW : 8 December 2014), Christina Grubb in entry for Janet Mcglashan, 20 Nov 1852; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 993,405, 993,408, 993,403, 993,408. [Sep 2016]