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Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer1

M, #10789, b. 9 September 1839, d. 12 July 1888
Last Edited: 7 Aug 2022

Parents:

Father*: Alexander Milne pattern maker2 b. 11 Jun 1806, d. 19 Jul 1861
Mother*: Ann Hodge1 b. 15 Feb 1806, d. 29 Sep 1862
Relationship:
1st cousin 4 times removed of Patricia Catherine Adamson
  • Birth*: Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer was born on 9 September 1839 at Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, .2,3
  • He was the son of Alexander Milne pattern maker and Ann Hodge.2,1
  • Baptism: Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer was baptised on 6 October 1839 at Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, .3
  • Marriage*: He married Kate Paramor, daughter of John Paramor and Louisa Somebody, between 1881 and 1885; not found.
  • Death: Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer died on 12 July 1888 at Arcadia, Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, , at age 48; A Milne Chief Engineer died on 12 July 1888 from injuries received. T Tornburn 2 Engineer acting. see Log Book page 22.4
  • Death*: He died on 12 July 1888 at Sydney, Australia, , at age 48.5
  • Obituary: The obituary of Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer was was published on 21 July 1888 at Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, . 1888 July 21 Alexander Milne Obituary
    Australian Town & Country Journal, Sydney NSW

    MR. A. MILNE. - In shipping circles the death of Alexander Milne, chief engineer of the P. and O. Co.'s new steamship Ariadne, and formerly of the Ballarat, belonging to the same company, is much regretted, and the more so because it was sudden and accidental. On the passage of the Arcadia from Melbourne to Sydney Mr. Milne was standing underneath an ash shoot, talking to the third engineer, when a huge piece of coal fell through the opening above, and struck Mr. Milne on the crown of his head with such force as to render him insensible. Despite the attention and medical skill bestowed upon him, he never regained consciousness, but died three hours after receiving the blow. The deceased was a native of Dundee, in Scotland, and was 48 years of age. He was a married man, and left a wife and family in London. He had been over twenty-five years in the service of the P. and O. Co., and was much respected by all with whom he came in contact, particularly among the officers and crew of the vessel with whom he was an especial favorite. He was buried at Rookwood ; the highest honors known to the mercantile service being paid to the remains.6
  • (Interred) Probate*: His estate was probated on 4 March 1889 at London, England, ; 1889 Milne Alexander. 4 March. The Confirmation of the Commissariot of Forfar dated 7 January 1889 of Kate Paramor or Milne Widow the Relict and James Hodge Milne Tobacco Manufacturer 121 Murraygate Dundee as Executors Nominate of Alexander Milne of Tobermory Forest Gate Norwich Road London Engineer in the Penninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Company London who died at Sea 12 July 1888. Sealed.7
  • Occupation*: Alexander was Chief Engineer.
  • (Informant) Death: He registered the death of Alexander Milne pattern maker on 19 July 1861 at 1 Mid Street, Constitution Road, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, ; 1861 deaths inthe 1st district of the Burgh of Dundee in the county of Forfar, ref 726; Alexander Milne pattern maker married to Ann Hodge, 1861 July nineteenth 11h 0m am 1 Mid Street, Constitution Road, Dundee, male 55 years, parents James Milne manufacturer (dec) and Euphemia Milne ms Robertson, consumption some years as certified by Samuel Cockburn MD; signed Alexr Milne Jr son present; registered 1861 July 22nd at Dundee W Johnston registrar.2,5
  • Crew List*: Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer was found on a crew list for Ballarat of Greenock Ship P&O on 2 January 1882 at Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, . Inward, signed C F Touslin, master. A list of the crew and passengers arrived in the steam ship Ballarrat of Greenock Burthen 4752 tons, from port of London to Sydney, New South Wales 2 January 1882. A Milne, chief engineer, 44, Dundee.8
  • Crew List*: Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer was found on a crew list for Arcadia of Belfast Ship P&O on 13 July 1888 at Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, . Inward, signed W R Andrews, master. A list of the crew and passengers arrived in the ship Arcadia of Belfast Burthen 3349 tons, from port of London via Melbourne & ports to Sydney, New South Wales 13 July 1888. A Milne, chief engineer, 48, Dundee.
    A Milne Chief Engineer died on 12 July 1888 from injuries received. T Tornburn 2 Engineer acting. see Log Book page 22.4
  • Newspaper Article*: Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer was mentioned in a newspaper article SAD ACCIDENT ON THE R.M.S. ARCADIA.
    THE CHIEF ENGINEER KILLED.
    [BY SPECIAL WIRE.]
    (From Our Correspondent.)
    SYDNEY, FRIDAY.
    A sad accident occurred during the P. and O. Company 's R.M.S. Arcadia's voyage from Melbourne. Early yesterday afternoon Mr. Alexander Milne, the chief engineer, was in the engine-room, when a large piece of coal fell from a bucket, which had been just hoisted to the deck, and struck him on the head with such force as to smash in the skull, dislocate the spine, and fracture the jaw. Mr. Milne died shortly afterwards.
    Mr Milne had a great many friends in Victoria and New South Wales, and the news of his sudden and very untimely death will be received with much regret. More especially will this be the case with those of his friends in Melbourne who parted from him on Wednesday last, just before the Arcadia left for Sydney, and who had offered him their congratulations on his appointment to the Arcadia, and on the splendid passage which she had accomplished. Mr Milne was a native of Dundee, and graduated in Carmichael's engineering establishment there. He joined the P. and O. Company in 1862,and had seen 26 years of active service in the company's vessels. He was chief engineer of the R.M.S.S. Ballarat for several years, and many who have voyaged in that steamer will have a pleasant recollection of him. He was on board the company’s R.M.S.S. Victoria on Wednesday last comparing notes with Mr Hammett, the chief engineer of that steamer, and when information of the fatal accident was circulated on board the Victoria yesterday it called forth expressions of pained surprise Mr. Milne was 48 years of age, and leaves a family in London. on 14 July 1888 at The Argus, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, .9
  • Newspaper Article: He was mentioned in a newspaper article THE P. AND O. COMPANY'S R.M.S. ARCADIA.
    Early yesterday morning the Peninsular and Oriental Company's fourth Jubilee ship, the Royal mail steamer Arcadia, arrived in port having thus completed her maiden voyage from London in most excellent time. During certain portions of the run out she has beaten the record both of the Orient steamers and the company's boats by some hours. The Arcadia may be considered the counterpart of the R M S Oceana in very nearly every detail, both vessels were built at the same yard in Belfast and by the celebrated shipbuilders, Messrs Harland and Wolfe. The Oceana has already been most fully described In these columns, and in order to describe the Arcadia would certainly be superfluous if a repetition in every detail were necessary. As the Arcadia now lies in Neutral Bay, viewed from the immediate land in the vicinity, she strikes the spectator as being a boat possessing exceptionally pleasing lines, and for her immense size they are certainly very graceful. Internally the Arcadia, far surpasses that of the three Jubilee steamers preceding her The little faults and alterations that have been found necessary to make in the Britannia, Victoria, and Oceana have been guarded against in the Arcadia, and naturally she should be found better. In speaking of the Arcadia, and not drawing a comparison between the vessels, it may be stated that the Arcadia is constructed of steel, she has been engined by her builders, mild steel has been used in her construction which is of special quality and stoutness, and every plate has been tested. Her hull is symmetrical as is draughted on graceful lines. It is partitioned off into 10 water-tight compartments, with steel bulkheads extending upwards to the upper decks Accidents by collision, fire, or otherwise have been provided against so far as man's skill and might can do. The hurricane deck affords a most spacious promenade of 300ft, in length. The Arcadia measures 466ft in length between perpendiculars, or close up to 500ft over all. The beam is 52ft. 2in. and the depth of hold is 38ft. from the upper deck The gross measurement of the steamer is 6362 tons, and the net register is 3210 tons It will thus be seen that with so much space at command the Arcadia, if on transport service, could accommodate some 3000 soldiers The passenger accommodation is at present limited to first and second saloons, the third class arrangement has not yet come into operation, but the fittings have been made and can be erected when the occasion arises The main saloon and the second saloon are counterparts of those of the Oceana. The engines of the Arcadia are of the same colossal proportions as those of the other Jubilee steamers, and they are equally well finished. They are on the triple expansion principle, the cylinders are 40½in, 63½in, and 102in in diameter respectively. They have a piston stroke of 6ft. The steam enters the first or high-pressed cylinder at a pressure of 150lb, and into the second at a pressure of 60lb, while into the third, or low pressed, it enters at a pressure of 25lb, and afterwards it undergoes the condensing process. The cylinders are accommodating, and any two of them can be used without the third. The engines are surface-condensing, and work direct action on the screw, and the cylinders are inverted. The boilers are of steel, and double-ended. There are six main boilers, and each has six furnaces on Fox's patent corrugated plan. For general work there is an auxiliary boiler with one furnace. Before being placed in position the boilers were tested by hydraulic pressure up to twice the ordinary working pressure. The screw is a four-bladed one of manganese bronze, the pitch is 23ft. 3in. , and the diameter is 21ft. She has a large refrigerating machinery on Haslem’s patent, which is available for ship’s or cargo purposes. The electric light is everywhere to be found, the two dynamos are driven by Tangye’s compound engines, each dynamo is equal to supplying 600 incandesent lights of 30 candle power. Besides, she has larger and more powerful lamps for working cargo at night, masthead lights when passing through the Canal. Armstrong's hydraulic cranes are only used for the discharge and taking in of cargo. In the matter of boats and life-belts the Arcadia is most amply found The sanitary arrangements on board are of the most complete character. It is needless to describe the nature and fittings of the saloons, ladies’ rooms, smoking rooms, for they are decorated with great taste, very luxurious, and, if anything, they surpass those of the Oceana. All arrangements on board are so complete, and no expense has been spared to make everything as comfortable as possible, for passengers that they may well consider that they are staying at a first-class continental hotel. Captain W. B. Andrews, R.N.R., who was last here in the Bengal, is in command, and he has with him as deck officers Mr F.M. Gardner, chief, from the Parramatta, Mr F.C.A. Lyon, R.N.R., from the Shannon, second: Mr. E.G. P. Martin, R.N.R., from the Pekin, third; Mr B.S. Bryson, R.N.R., from the Mirzapore, supernumerary third; Mr H.W. Kenrick, R.N.R., from the Britannia, fourth; and Mr H.W.A. Clarke, from the Pairamatta, fifth. Mr. Alexander Milne, late chief engineer, had with him Messrs. Thorburn, Ramsay, and Menzies, who all hold chiefs certificates. There are also three assistant engineers to those just mentioned. Besides these there are the five refrigerating and electric engineers, hydraulic engineers, a boilermaker, and two mechanics who act as winchmen. Mr Thorburn, the second engineer, was here on the first trip of the Britannia. Mr. A. Roberts is head steward. This, the maiden trip of the Arcadia, has not by any, means been devoid of incident. During the voyage Mr Hagarty, a second saloon passenger, died at Colombo on the 24th ultimo from peritonitis. Mr. Hagarty was on his way to Melbourne in charge of pictures for the Centennial Exhibition. Another death occurred on the 5th instant, when Mr. J. M. Donald, a second saloon passenger from Calcutta, died from phthisis The body was buried at sea with the usual ceremony. To add yet another to the list of melancholy items, the death of Mr Milne, the chief engineer, has to be recorded, details of which will be found elsewhere. Apart from these fatalities the voyage was of a cheerful character throughout. The passengers were agreeably disposed, and the usual amusements and entertainments were carried on with spirit. Of the voyage it is gleaned that the Arcadia took her departure from the Albert Docks at 1 pm , on the 1st ultimo, with 187 passengers and a full cargo. The run out has been one of the fastest, as the following dates of departure will show:- London was left on June 1, Gibraltar on June 5, Malta on Juno 9, Brindisi on June 11, Port Said on June 13, Suez the next day, Aden was reached on June 18, and Colombo on June 24. Albany was made on the 4th instant, Adelaide on the 7th, and Melbourne on the 11th instant, and this port as stated. On several occasions the engines have had to be slowed down, but when they have been allowed to go most excellent work has been recorded The run down the Red Sea was accomplished in 80½ hours, equal to 16-25 knots per hour, and eclipsing the run of the Ormus by three hours. From Aden to Colombo was also done in the quickest time on record, the distance, 2109 having been traversed in 126 hours 33 minutes, which, allowing difference of longitude-2 hours and 19 minutes- the speed attained averaged 16.62 knots. The Arcadia averaged 15 knots from Colombo , the steamer has consequently proved herself to be a fast boat. Four hundred miles a day has been reached, and between 380 and 400 miles was always considered the usual thing. Space will not permit to give a fuller detailed account of her voyage, but it can be safely said that the Arcadia is superior to her sister ship, the Oceana, and also to the Britannia and Victoria. on 14 July 1888 at Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, .10
  • Newspaper Article: He was mentioned in a newspaper article The Sydney Morning Herald, NSW
    Monday 16 July 1888
    The remains of the late Mr. Alexander Milne, chief engineer of the R.M.S. Arcadia, were conveyed to the Waverley Cemetery on Saturday, The funeral moved from Fort Macquarie shortly after 2 p.m., and was attended by several officers of the ship and friends of the deceased. on 16 July 1888 at Sydney, New South Wales, Australia, .11
  • (Witness) Memorial Inscription: He is commemorated on the headstone erected by Alexander Milne pattern maker in 1861 at Western Cemetery, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . Inscription reads Erected by J H Milne in memory of his father Alexander Milne patternmaker born 22nd June 1806 died 19th July 1861. Ann Hodge spouse of Alexander Milne born 15th February 1806 died 29th September 1862. Alexander Milne junr, engineer born 12 September 1839 died 12th July 1888 interred in Waverley Cemetery Sydney Australia.
    (Degraded - On the North Side seen in 1978 - via Pre-1855 MI book ) Jean Milne, Elmgrove - - - - - - - -.12,13
  • (Spouse) Death: His spouse Kate Paramor died on 23 September 1924 at Croydon, Surrey, England, ; deaths registered in England in July, August and September 1924; Milne, Kate, 83, Croydon, vol 2a, page 322.14,7

Census & Directory Entries

Member of Household6 June 1841Alexander Milne engine fitter, chief engineer was listed along with Alexander Milne pattern maker in the 1841 census at Temple Lane, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . Alexr Mill, 30, I Wright, Angus; Ann Mill, 30, Angus; Alexr Mill, 1, Angus.15,16
Member of Household30 March 1851They was listed as a member of the household of Alexander Milne pattern maker and Ann Hodge in the 1851 census at Dyers Close, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . Alexander Milne, son, 11, scholar, Dundee; Alexander Milne, head, 44, pattern maker, Dundee; Ann Milne, wife, 45, Dundee.17
Member of Household7 April 1861They was listed as a member of the household of Alexander Milne pattern maker and Ann Hodge in the 1861 census at Mid Street, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . Alexander Milne, son, 21, engine fitter, Dundee; Alexander Milne, head, 54, pattern maker, Dundee; Ann Milne, wife, 54, Dundee.18

Family:

Kate Paramor b. 30 Dec 1841, d. 23 Sep 1924

Child:

Frank Godwin Milne engineers clerk b. 16 Oct 1881, d. 9 Dec 1964

Citations

  1. [S50] General Record Office for Scotland, online www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, General Record Office for Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland), GROS Statutory Death 1861 Forfar 282/01 0726 [Mar 2014].
  2. [S50] General Record Office for Scotland, GROS Statutory Death 1861 Dundee 1st District 282/01 0726 [Mar 2014].
  3. [S56] International Genealogical Index (IGI) (Salt Lake City, Utah, USA: International Genealogical Index), Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950, index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XB8W-J45 : accessed
    29 Mar 2014), Alexander Miln, 19 Sep 1839; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 0993405, 0993408, 993403, 993408.
  4. [S9] Website Ancestry.co.uk (www.ancestry.co.uk) Source Information: Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007. Original data: New South Wales Government. Inward passenger lists. Series 13278, Reels 399-560, 2001-2122, 2751. State Records Authority of New South Wales. Kingswood, New South Wales, Australia. New South Wales Government. Reports of vessels arrived (or Shipping reports). Series 1291, Reels 1263-1285, 2851. State Records Authority of New South Wales. Kingswood, New South Wales, Australia. © the Crown in right of the State of New South Wales and is used under licence with the permission of the State Records Authority. The State of New South Wales gives no warranty regarding the data's accuracy, completeness, currency or suitability for any particular purpose. [April 2014]
  5. [S53] Alison Mitchell ed. Monumental Inscriptions pre-1855 Dundee & Broughty Ferry vol 4, Scottish Genealogy Society, Edinburgh, first ed (unknown publish date) 0 901061 25 5 Western Cemetery, page 202, ref 226.
  6. [S32] Newspaper Article, Australian Town & Country Journal, Sydney, Australia; National Archives of Australia; http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/71100144?searchTerm=alexander%20milne&searchLimits=l-decade=188
  7. [S9] Website Ancestry.co.uk (www.ancestry.co.uk) Source Information: Ancestry.com. England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Principal Probate Registry. Calendar of the Grants of Probate and Letters of Administration made in the Probate Registries of the High Court of Justice in England. London, England © Crown copyright. [April 2014]
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    Ancestry.com. New South Wales, Australia, Unassisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, 1826-1922 [database on-line].
    Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2007.
    Original data:
    New South Wales Government. Inward passenger lists. Series 13278, Reels 399-560, 2001-2122, 2751. State Records Authority of New South Wales. Kingswood, New South Wales, Australia. New South Wales Government. Reports of vessels arrived (or Shipping reports). Series 1291, Reels 1263-1285, 2851. State Records Authority of New South Wales. Kingswood, New South Wales, Australia. © the Crown in right of the State of New South Wales and is used under licence with the permission of the State Records Authority. The State of New South Wales gives no warranty regarding the data's accuracy, completeness, currency or suitability for any particular purpose. [April 2014]
  9. [S32] The Argus, Melbourne, Australia; National Archives of Australia; http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/6894641?searchTerm=alexander%20milne&searchLimits=l-decade=188 [April 2014].
  10. [S32] The Sydney Morning Herald, NSW, Australia; National Archives of Australia; http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13690954?searchTerm=alexander%20milne&searchLimits=l-decade=188
  11. [S32] The Sydney Morning Herald, NSW, Australia; National Archives of Australia; http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13691114?searchTerm=alexander%20milne&searchLimits=l-decade=188
  12. [S53] Alison Mitchell ed. MI Pre-1855 Angus vol 4 Western Cemetery, page 202, ref 226 [March 2014].
  13. [S21] Headstone Photograph; , PCC [April 2014].
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  18. [S9] Website Ancestry.co.uk (www.ancestry.co.uk) Source Citation: Parish: Dundee; ED: 16; Page: 27; Line: 13; Roll: CSSCT1861_38. Source Information:
    Ancestry.com. 1861 Scotland Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006. Original data: Scotland. 1861 Scotland Census. Reels 1-150. General Register Office for Scotland, Edinburgh, Scotland.. [March 2014]