Kathryn Anstice contact¹

• (Child) Birth*: Kathryn Anstice contact was born circa 1968 at Victoria, .¹
• (Deceased) Death*: She died on 25 October 2016 at Australia, .²

• Name Variation: As of circa 1995, Kathryn Anstice contact was also known as Groves.³
• Contact*: On 5 June 2014 there was contact from Kathryn Anstice contact about Isabella Watt and Agnes Watt and James Alexander. Pat Carson
  From: kathryn
  Sent: 05 June 2014 13:38
  To: patcarsonp@hotmail.com
  Subject: Genes on the Web - Genes on the WebAndrew Watt
  Categories: patcarsonp@hotmail.com
  Hi
  I have j ust started to do some research in to my grandmothers family tree, her gran mother was Isabella Watt she was born in Haddington and came to Autralia with her mother and now it also seems her grandparents. I had started to write a small story on Isabella so that my mum who is in her 70s could understand who was who and also to let the future generations know there family story. I came across your link by chance and you have helped answer the question I was having, why was Agnes not have a birth certificate and why did every one else think she was a Watt- Miller – I am wondering how you go about getting the information from the Scotland registers I am registered with ancestory.com but even when I change the name I am finding its not coming up with the riht infor for the Isabella Watt (alexander) I am related to… her mum was Agnes Watt and her father it seems to be James alexander which I thought it might have been when Agnes gets married so quick to him after her arrival in Austrlia…. I am pretty certain I have the right agnes when I was researching her that she came to Australia on the ship ‘champion of the sea’s’ – there is a james miller listed as a passenger on this ship though I am pretty certain now he is not anything to do with Isabella…. If you could please help me with how I can copy or site the information that you have posted I would be most greatful. I am in Australia not far away from Kangaroo Flat (1 hour drive) where the family come to settle for parts of there lives… I am curious if they came to Australia to try and find a fortune in the gold rush or if they are ashamed that Agnes has had a baby and feel they need to leave …. Do you know if they belonged to any particular church… or if there homes they lived in over in Scotland still stand today…one dya I may be able to make the trip and see the landmarks of Scotland my self!!
  I look forward from hearing from you
  Kate
  
  
  From: Pat Carson [mailto:patcarsonp@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, 6 June 2014 9:21 AM
  To: 'kathryn'
  Subject: RE: Genes on the Web - Genes on the WebAndrew Watt
  Hello,
  Nice to ‘meet’ you!
  This is a fairly peripheral line for me, so only sparse details I’m afraid. And mainly gleaned from others’ trees on Ancestry (but I have credited/cited them, so you should be able to find them)!
  I do have the birth registration for Isabella Watt in 1856 so have attached that too. You will ONLY get Scottish Statutory Records from ScotlandsPeople the government website for all the records – Ancestry doesn’t have them and at this time unlikely to get them in the future! http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
  It’s not too expensive – certainly hugely cheaper than English records – you register, then purchase a minimum of 30 credits that cost £7 ($12.61Aus).
  Beware, too, the Ancestry transcription for Scottish Census returns – in the main they are poor and can raise some extraordinary questions that are soon resolved when you buy the original from SP!
  Agnes wouldn’t have a birth certificate as this was before statutory registration began in 1855. But there would probably have been a record in the Parish Records for the church she was baptised in. And you ask about the church the family belonged to – I cannot be categorical, but the baptism records are showing on Family Search https://familysearch.org/ in the usual way, so I would guess they were Church of Scotland – the Established Church then and now.
  Google maps will give you a street view of many places as they are today. Some of the antiquarian postcard sites may have pictures of earlier years – you can search with Google for them too. Or ScotlandsPlaces may have something www.scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/
  I’m also in touch with one or two others researching the Alexander line. I can put them in touch with you if you are happy for me to pass on your name and email address?
  Hope this helps
  regards
  Pat
  
  
  Pat Carson
  From: kathryn
  Sent: 06 June 2014 00:38
  To: 'Pat Carson'
  Subject: RE: Genes on the Web - Genes on the WebAndrew Watt
  Categories: patcarsonp@hotmail.com
  Thank you so much Pat for you help I will subscribe to the site and see if I can find some other answers to some more questions I have… I have only just started to do this research so very new, I was using the ancestry site and I was kind of thinking this is not adding up right so went into writing a page and thinking that Isabella (my great great grandmother) might have been a child born out of wedlock – everyone I have seen has listed her as having a name of ‘miller watt’ i am not sure where they got that anem Miller from but that is ok now I know that she is the really an ‘alexander’. Would you know if Jane Gibson and Agnes Gibson where related??
  I am more than happy for you to hand on my information to others, -where abouts are they from??? I live an hour and half away from Melbourne in country Victoria, and just a bit over an hour from Bendigo.
  Thanks for all your help again….
  Lovely to know there is someone else in the world interested in our family history….
  Kathryn
  Ps where abouts are you from
  .⁴
• (Subject) Contact*: On 22 September 2014 there was contact from Agnes Gibson about Kathryn Anstice contact and Jane Gibson, Andrew Watt, Isabella Watt and Agnes Watt. Pat Carson
  From: kathryn
  Sent: 22 September 2014 23:43
  To: patcarsonp@hotmail.com
  Subject: watt
  Attachments: agnes w death cert.pdf; jane watt death cert.pdf; andrew watt death cert.pdf;
  cemetery query report.jpg
  Follow Up Flag: Follow up
  Flag Status: Flagged
  Categories: patcarsonp@hotmail.com
  HI Pat,
  Please find the enclosed death certificates of Agnes Alexander (nee Watt), and her stepmother Jane and father Andrew. I have also put in the cemetery report I received from the historical society here in Australia for the Alexanders (agnes) 
  I do have somewhere but will need to find them and scan the report from the cemetery on Jane and Andrew Watt’s daughter Jane and Rebecca. Jane married a John James apparently (I haven’t really looked in to these branches in full yet) and died in 1871 and I think it was also from consumption. Rebecca married a James and died in 1912.
  
  I have been trying to work out what and where my great great grandmother (Isabella watt miller) lived, as she isn’t ’listed on the death cert of Agnes her mother. I have been able to find information on Andrew Jane and their daughters Rebecca and Jane on their trip to Australia but the only lead I have for any Agnes and a James Miller (james miller is listed as Isabella’s father on her death cert) is that they maybe came to Aust, In the same year as Andrew and Jane but on a different ship, also on the information I have found it lists Agnes as being English and not Scottish so I am kind of thinking it might be another family at this stage. In the public notices that I have found for Isabella it doesn’t say anything about her ‘mum’agnes but just that she is the granddaughter of Andrew Watt, so I am kind of thinking that she may have lived with her grandparents rather than her mother…
  I have been writing all my information down and have a ‘book’ happening with all my information and pictures etc that I have found… now trying to fill in the blanks!!
  Anyway hope that these certificates are helpful to you. I have been trying to avoid getting to many certificates from over here as they are very expensive
  Hope you are having a great day
  Kahtryn.⁵