- Birth*: Andrew McGlashan was born on 20 April 1817 at Newburgh, Fife, Scotland, ; Name Andrew Mcglashan
Gender Male
Christening Date 20 Apr 1817
Christening Place NEWBURGH,FIFE,SCOTLAND
Birth Date Mar 1817
Father's Name Robert Mcglashan
Mother's Name Christian Lawson.1,3,2 - He was the son of Robert McGlashan and Christian Lawson.2
- Marriage*: Andrew McGlashan married Christina Grubb, daughter of Henry Grubb and Janet Forgan, on Monday, 29 January 1849 at Liverpool, Lancashire, England, ; First name(s) Andrew
Last name Mcglashan
Name note -
Marriage year 1849
Marriage date 29 Jan 1849
Marriage place Liverpool
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Mcglashan
Spouse's first name(s) Christiana
Spouse's last name Grubb
Spouse's age 0
Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
Spouse's father's last name Grubb
Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain.1 - (Deceased) Death*: Andrew McGlashan died on 9 August 1891 at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, , at age 74 Name Andrew Mcglashan
Occupation Contractor
Death Date 09 Aug 1891
Event Place Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Residence City Geelong
Event Date 11 Sep 1891
Series Number 46
Record Number 234.4 - Marriage Fact*: He and Christina Grubb were Marriage Fact on 29 January 1849 at St Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England, ; Name Andrew Mcglashan
Spouse's Name Christiana Grubb
Event Date 29 Jan 1849
Event Place St. Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
Father's Name Robert Mcglashan
Spouse's Father's Name Henry Grubb
Marital Status Single
Spouse's Marital Status Single
Christiana Grubb
mentioned in the record of Andrew Mcglashan and Christiana Grubb.5 - Emigration*: Christina Grubb emigrated with Andrew McGlashan on an unknown person circa 1853 at Australia, ; presumed approximate date of emmigration.
- Sequestration*: He was sequestrated In the Insolvent Estate of ANDREW McGLASHAN, of Geelong, in the colony of Victoria, fruiterer and greengrocer.
Geelong Circuit District.
W HEREAS the estate of Andrew McGlashan, of Geelong, in the colony of Victoria, fruiterer and greengrocer, was, on the twenty-fourth day of March, One thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, placed under sequestration in my hasids, by order of His Honor Mr. Justice INilliains, one the judge, of the Supreme Court of the Colony of Victoria, and who did, by further order under his hand, appoint George Webster, Esq., of Geelong, one of the official assignees of insolvent estates for the colony of Victoria, to be the official assignee of and for this estate: I hereby appoint a public meeting of the creditors of the said Andrew McGlashan, to be holden before me, at my office, Myers street, Geelong, on Wednesday, the sixth day of May next, at the hour of Eleven o'clock in the forenoon, for proof of debts, and for the election of an assignee, if neces ary, to act with the official assignee; and unles; it shall be showu ate such
meeting that the goods and effect, of the said Andrew McGlashan exceed the sum of One hundred pounds, I shall summarily proceed to rank the debts which shall then be proved upon the said estate, and direct the proceeds to be distributed accordingly.
Dated at Geelong, this 28th clay- of April, A.D. 1863.
No. 741
J. WILLIAM WALDEN,
For the Commissioner of Insolvent Estates,
Circuit District of Geelong. on 24 March 1863 at Geelong, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, .6 - (Spouse) Death: His spouse Christina Grubb died on 18 May 1885 at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, ; First name(s) Christina Grubb
Last name Mcglashan
Birth year -
Death year 1885
Death date 18 May 1885
Cemetery Geelong Eastern Cemetery
City East Geelong
State Victoria
Image link http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/Christina-Grubb-McGlashan/6799042
Country Australia
Record set Australia Billion Graves cemetery index
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Australasia.7 - Marriage*: Andrew McGlashan married Christina Grubb, daughter of Henry Grubb and Janet Forgan, on Monday, 29 January 1849 at Liverpool, Lancashire, England, ; First name(s) Andrew
Last name Mcglashan
Name note -
Marriage year 1849
Marriage date 29 Jan 1849
Marriage place Liverpool
Father's first name(s) Robert
Father's last name Mcglashan
Spouse's first name(s) Christiana
Spouse's last name Grubb
Spouse's age 0
Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
Spouse's father's last name Grubb
Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England
County Lancashire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Marriages & divorces
Collections from Great Britain.1 - (Witness) Note for Web: Andrew McGlashan and William Johnston, Christina Grubb, Henry Grubb, Janet Forgan, Lewis Johnston seaman, Helen Grubb, Euphemia Stewart jute spinner, Jessie Johnston jute spinner, Agnes Barrie Johnston jute spinner, Margaret Woods Johnston jute spinner, Christina Johnston, Euphemia Stewart Johnston jute spinner, Isabella Thomson Black Johnston jute preparer, Georgina Keir Paterson Johnston, Henry McGlashan, Janet McGlashan and Robert McGlashan was mentioned with William Johnston bottler. Facts and Hypothesis re William Johnston born about 1848 who says his parents are William Johnston, shipwright, and Christina Grubb:
From various records one could assume that William is born about 1848 in either Fife – maybe Crail, maybe St Andrews – or Dundee. All these possibilities have been explored in the name of Johnson, Jonsen, Johnston(e) and variants; and Grubb without finding a birth/baptism that fits.
On the 30th March 1851 census there is a 4-year-old child recorded as William Normand living in St Andrews with Henry Grubb and his wife Janet Forgan and who is described as ‘Grandson’ and born in Crail, Fife. No marriage between a Grubb and Normand can be found, and no William Normand was recorded as born/baptised in Scotland in the time frame. So a query exists that this might be William Johnston. But there are likely to be other grandsons who could fit this description. But no other William Johnson or Grubb that fits the profile.
On the 7th April 1861 census William is declared as 'nephew' aged 13 with Lewis Johnston as head and Helen Grubb as wife, who are living in Fish Street Dundee. William is described as a mill worker born in St Andrews Fife. So William is nephew to whom? It should be stated as relative to the head of the house - Lewis Johnston. Or is it his wife, Helen? Christina Grubb is Helen’s younger sister. Is she William’s mother? Does Lewis Johnston have a brother named William? – Not found.
On the 2nd April 1871 census William Johnston is found boarding at 7 Keys Close (which is at 18 Nethergate) Dundee, with Elizabeth Morrison as head of the household. William states he is born Dundee, aged 22 and working as a brewer.
On his marriage three weeks after the census night, on 24 April 1871, William Johnston signs his name and states his parents as William Johnston, shipwright & Christina Grubb, his address as 18 Nethergate Dundee (see census above), his age as 22 and his occupation as bottler.
On informing of Lewis Johnston's death in 1878, William states he is nephew and his address is 27 Overgate, Dundee. William also states Lewis’ parents as Ormond Johnston, a ploughman, and Euphemia Pratt – no information about this couple or any other similar Johnston family can be found.
When his 4th daughter (of 7) is born in March 1881, she is named Christina – but this is not an uncommon name of the time.
On the April 1881 census William states he is 34, and iron work labourer and born Dundee.
In 1886, on birth of twin daughters, William is living at 27 Overgate, states his occupation as marine stoker and his marriage date as 24 April 1871.
On the April 1891 census William states he is 46, born Dundee and occupied as a fireman.
But on his death in 1899, William's wife Euphemia Stewart states his occupation as builder’s donkey engineman, his age as 51 and his parents are Lewis Johnston, seaman, and Helen Grubb. (Because they raised him?)
On his wife’s death in 1913, his eldest daughter Jessie, says that he was a merchant seaman – but she also records her mother’s age as 49, when she was probably about 62.
So who to believe?
If Christina Grubb was Wiiliam’s mother – how would that look?
Christina Grubb was born about 1828 (no birth/bapt found, but other records suggest this)
If William is born about 1847/8, then Christina would be aged about 19/20.
Christina marries Andrew McGlashan in January 1849 in Liverpool. Christina is probably aged 21.
Christina and Andrew have a son, Robert McGlashan, who is born in Dundee in August 1950.
The family are recorded in March 1851 in Fish Street Dundee. Christina’s age is stated as 22, Robert as under 1 year.
Christina and Andrew have a daughter, Janet, in November 1852 in Dundee.
When both Christina’s parents die within months of each other in 1855, Christina’s age is recorded on both occasions as 27.
The next time this family is found is in Australia when a headstone in Geelong Eastern Cemetery records Christina’s death in May 1885, aged 57, along with Andrew McGlashan, aged 74, in 1891 and a son, Henry, aged 28, in February 1886. In the absence of records, it is presumed that the family emigrated about 1853.
It could be hypothesised that Christina Grubb, sister of Helen Grubb, and William Johnson, brother of Lewis, are the parents of William Johnston born about 1848 and that he was probably born in Dundee, probably whilst Christina was staying with her sister Helen and brother-in-law Lewis.
Further – Christina marries far away from home in Liverpool, but returns to Dundee to live and have her family – at least for a while. In 1851 Christina is living close by to her sister Helen in Fish Street Dundee. Helen has only one surviving child at this time – Jessie – three others have died in infancy, followed by another two who do not survive after 1851. It would make sense for Helen to take in her sister’s child – William Johnston – especially when Christina and her husband (who presumably is not William's father) emigrate to Australia.
Extensive research has produced nothing to support any of this suppostition.
Additionally - there is a document for a William Johnston who is aged 14 and volunteering for the Navy. It is signed in Birkenhead and witnessed by the boy's uncle Edward Clancy and aunt Mrs John Bird. Neither of these people have been found to be related to our William Johnston. The boy's signature is typical of the era and there is a similarity to the older William's when he signs first his marriage register and later still his daughter's birth records - but not conclusively so. - [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) England Marriages 1538-1973 Transcription URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=r_847416746 [Sep 2016].
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December 2014), Andrew Mcglashan, Mar 1817; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 1,040,169. [Sep 2016] - [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1851%2f0021052025 [Sep 2016].
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Citation "Australia, Victoria, Index to Probate Registers, 1841-1989," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-120954-97?cc=1393345 : 20 May 2014), M-Mahood > image 71 of 1323; Public Record Office, Victoria. [Sep 2016] - [S56] International Genealogical Index (IGI), ENGLAND MARRIAGES, 1538–1973 ?Indexing Project (Batch) Number M00731-5 System Origin England-EASy GS Film number 1656509 Reference ID it 6, p 71, no 142 CITING THIS RECORD
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December 2014), Andrew Mcglashan and Christiana Grubb, 29 Jan 1849; citing St. Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England, reference it 6, p 71, no 142; FHL microfilm 1,656,509. [Sep 2016] - [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) Collection Government - Victorian Government Gaze_e document
Government - Victorian Government Gaze_e document
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Publication year 1863
Page number 967
Publication title Victoria Government Gazettes 1863
Category Directories & social history
Subcategory Government
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Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11282-9
System Origin Scotland-ODM
GS Film number 0993405, 0993408, 993403, 993408
CITING THIS RECORD
"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB8W-436 : 8
December 2014), Christina Grubb in entry for Robert Mcglashan, 19 Aug 1850; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 993,405, 993,408, 993,403, 993,408. . [Sep 2016] - [S56] International Genealogical Index (IGI), SCOTLAND BIRTHS AND BAPTISMS, 1564-1950 ?Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11282-9 System Origin Scotland-ODM GS Film number 0993405, 0993408, 993403, 993408 CITING THIS RECORD
"Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB83-DSW : 8 December 2014), Christina Grubb in entry for Janet Mcglashan, 20 Nov 1852; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 993,405, 993,408, 993,403, 993,408. [Sep 2016]
Andrew McGlashan1
M, #14228, b. 20 April 1817, d. 9 August 1891
Last Edited: 20 Apr 2020
Parents:
Family:
Christina Grubb b. c 1828, d. 18 May 1885
Children:
Robert McGlashan9 b. 19 Aug 1850
Janet McGlashan10 b. 20 Nov 1852
Henry McGlashan7 b. c 1857, d. 13 Feb 1886
Janet McGlashan10 b. 20 Nov 1852
Henry McGlashan7 b. c 1857, d. 13 Feb 1886