David Edward groom, coachman^1,2

Parents:

• (Child) Birth*: David Edward groom, coachman was born say 1853.⁴
• He was the son of Robert Edward gardener and Ann Thomson.³
• (Groom) Marriage*: David Edward groom, coachman married Mary Ann Adamson bar maid, daughter of Alexander Adamson tailor and Agnes Murray, on Saturday, 17 April 1875 at 8 Bank Street, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, ; 1875 marriages in the district of St Clement in the burgh of Dundee, ref 84; 1875 on the Seventeenth day of April at 8 Bank Street Dundee by declaration in presence of John Cormack ship carpenter & Jane Edward or Cormack his wife; signed David Edwards groom bachelor aged 21 residing 30 Victoria Street parents Robert Edwards gardeners labourer and Ann Edwards ms Thomson (dec); signed Mary Ann Adamson barmaid spinster aged 22 residing High Street Elie parents Alexander Adamson tailor master (dec) and Agnes Adamson ms Murray; by warrant of Sheriff Substitute of Forfarshire dated 19th April 1875, registered 1875 April 19 at Dundee signed Dav Scott registrar.^5,3
• (Erector) Memorial Inscription*: A Headstone was erected by David Edward groom, coachman in February 1910 at Ardler Churchyard, Ardler, Perthshire, Scotland, . Inscription reads Erected by DAVID EDWARD ILMO his wife Mary Ann Adamson d. 11.2.1919 aged 67y. Also the above DAVID EDWARD d. 28.3.1927 aged 76y and their daughter Johan M.A. Dewar d. 23.2.1954 aged 70.⁶
  

• (Informant) Death: He registered the death of Mary Ann Adamson bar maid on 11 February 1919 at Arthurstone Lodge, Coupar Angus, Perthshire, Scotland, ; 1919 Deaths in the district of Coupar Angus in the county of Perth, ref 6; Mary Ann Adamson married to David Edward couchman, died 1919 February Eleventh 1-h 15m am Arthurstone Lodge Coupar Angus; female aged 66 years, parents [Robert?] Adamson tailor master deceased and Agnes Adamson ms Murray deceased; cause neurasthenia [muco?] colitis as certifie by George Shaw MB Edin; signed David Edward widower; registered 1919 February 13th at Coupar Angus singed Robert K Macintyre registrar.²
• (Other subject) Contact: On 20 April 2012 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about Johan Murray Adamson Edward insurance clerk and David Edward groom, coachman. From: Barbara Neish [mailto:neishnook@ibl.bm]
  Sent: 20 April 2012 00:03
  To: Pat Carson
  Subject: Johana Murray Adamson Dewar
  
  Hello Pat
  Perhaps you will remember me and my FORD family connection ? This question is in connection with the ADAMSON branch. My 2nd cousin and I have been trying to unravel a lot of old photos etc left by her Grandmother Elizabeth FORD – my Grandmother is the sister, Isabella FORD (married Francis Wylie NEISH). Elizabeth left a number of photos and post cards etc from a James DEWAR and we wondered if he had married one of the other FORD sisters. We have had no luck finding any of the husbands of the other sisters. To-day I learnt that he did NOT marry a Ford. As the attachment shows, his wife was JOHANA MURRAY ADAMSON DEWAR. With Adamson being a middle (or her maiden name) that might be a clue – making her a Cousin to our Grandmothers? I seem to recall that you have done ADAMSON research. Might you know about a Johana ? A bit about James Dewar below.
  Best regards
  Barbara Neish
  Bermuda
  
  I may have found him for you on Ancestry. I have found a James Thompson Dewar b 1881 and living at 17 Seymour Street Dundee and in the RGA! sounds like him!!
  Janet
  
  In a message dated 19/04/2012 20:39:28 GMT Daylight Time, neishnook@ibl.bm writes:
  Janet
  Here is the bit I have on JAMES DEWAR – don’t spend any time on it though (unless you have a very lazy day…)
  This was located on the list from the Castle of Edinburgh as born in Dundee, James Thomson Dewar, service #163127, died (at home) May 19, 1920. Royal Garrison Artillery Gnr.
  Two sons Edward and Ronnie Dewar noted on family papers.
  May have been born Dundee 1872 – Died May 19,1920
  As the 1891 census has him in England & Single – he might have married there after 1891 ? IF that is him.
  Barbara
  
  
  
  
  1891 Census
  http://freecen.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
  Census 1891
  Piece: RG12/1681 Place: St Thomas -Devon Enumeration District: 01
  Civil Parish: Heavitree Ecclesiastical Parish: Heavitree
  Folio: 78 Page: 1 Schedule: 0
  Address: Artillery Barracks Heavitree
  
  Surname
  
  First name(s)
  
  Rel
  
  Status
  
  Sex
  
  Age
  
   Occupation
  
   Where Born
  
  
  
  
  DEWAR
  
  James
  
  Sldier
  
  S
  
  M
  
  19
  
  Driver Royal Artillery
  
  Scotland - -
  
  From: Pat Carson
  To: 'Barbara Neish'
  Sent: Fri 20/04/2012 13:42
  Subject: RE: Johana Murray Adamson Dewar
  
  Hi Barbara,
  
  Yes still tracking Ford folk at this end – but will admit to not having had time recently to investigate some of the wider family! You remember correctly about the Adamson connection – for that is my ‘own’ name ie maiden name. You will find all my folk on my website here www.genesontheweb.co.uk
  
  Now your Johan Murray Adamson Dewar ms Edward is interesting – and I thought she might connect to some of my more far-flung Adamsons – so I tracked her family back a bit, but in fact they came from Fife, not Angus. (I’ve been trying to limit my interest to Adamson folk who have a BMD event in Angus.)
  
  So from the marriage records that I’ve downloaded from ScotlandsPeople (attached) you can see that
   Johan Murray Adamson Edward has parents David Edwards and Mary Anne Adamson (m Dundee 1875)
   Mary Anne Adamson has parents Alexander Adamson and Agnes Murray (m Elie, Fife 1842)
  
  I haven’t taken it back any further or investigated the family of any of them, but if you have access to Ancestry and/or ScotlandsPeople you might be able to put some flesh on the bones.
  Thanks for thinking of me – I’m always fascinated to see how all theses folk fit together (or not!).
  Hope this helps. Do keep in touch.
  Pat
  
  From: Barbara Neish [mailto:neishnook@ibl.bm]
  Sent: 20 April 2012 14:56
  To: Pat Carson
  Subject: Smiling in Bermuda
  
  Hello Pat
  
  I am smiling this morning. Our mystery JAMES DEWAR now solved. His wife Johan, with the maiden name of EDWARD is the answer. My 2^nd cousin, Diane Macara’s Grandmother, Elizabeth FORD married Robert EDWARD. It is quite possible that Johana DEWAR, nee EDWARD is a sister to Robert. I certainly am indebted to you for taking on my mystery. Below, should it be of interest, is the FORD connection. Everything has an answer – such a pleasure when one is found. Interesting the ADAMSON connection too. I know cousin Diane will be thrilled – all credit goes to YOU.
  Hugs from Bermuda
  Cousin Barbara
  
  Descendants of Robert Edward & Elizabeth FORD
  
   1  Robert EDWARD
  b: February 1877 in Scotland - Emigrated to Canada/USA abt 1920
  d: Abt 1936 in Chicago, Illinois USA
  .. +Elizabeth FORD (Parents David Ford & Isabella Ritchie)
  b: July 16, 1881 in Dundee, Angus, Scotland
  Emigrated to Canada/USA abt 1920
  ...... 2  Lena Ford EDWARD
  b: 1902 in Scotland
  Emigrated to Chicago USA Sept 6, 1920
  d: May 23, 1936 in Allegheny County, Pittsburgh, Pa, USA 
  .......... +William Finlay Morrison MACARA
  b: October 22, 1891 in Govan, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
  Emigrated May 7, 1920 Chicago USA 1920s
  m: Abt 1920 in Scotland (Divorced between 1925 to 1927
  .............. 3  Irene MACARA
  b: March 13, 1920 in Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
  Emigrated to Canada/USA Sept 6, 1920
  d: August 15, 1994 in Miami, Dade, Florida
  .................. +William SCHMACKER
  b: November 03, 1914 in Pittsburg, PA - USA
  d: February 1967 in Broward County, Florida, USA 
  .............. 3  William Robert Edward MACARA
  b: June 11, 1922 in Chicago, Illinois, USA
  d: December 23, 2007 in Illinois, USA
  .................. +Elizabeth Louise (Betty Lou) TAYLOR
  b: November 08, 1920 in Pittsburg, PA - USA
  d: August 1992 in Pittsburg, PA - USA
  ...................... 4  Debra MACARA b: in USA 
  ........................... +Richard FLOOD 
  ...................... 4  Diane MACARA b: in USA
  ........................... +David GEORGE 
  ............................... 5  Maddie GEORGE 
  ...................... 4  Donna MACARA b: in USA 
  ........................... +Robert WHITAKER 
  ...................... 4  Dorothy MACARA b: in USA 
  ........................... +Daniel BIELECKI 
  ...... *2nd Husband of Lena Ford Edward: 
  .......... +James R. BRADLEY
  b: Abt 1899 in ? Kentucky, USA
  m: 1932 in Marion county, Indianapolis, Indiana, USA 
  
  From: Pat Carson
  To: 'Barbara Neish'
  Sent: Fri 20/04/2012 15:35
  Subject: RE: Smiling in Bermuda
  
  Delighted to have been of help! Please can I add the relevant FORD bits to mine? They will end up on the web – deceased only – in due course if that’s ok.
  
  And interesting regarding the Edward connection – did you know that a later FORD married an EDWARD too? Here he is – any connection? http://www.genesontheweb.co.uk/p171.htm
  And I’ll attach his earlier marriage if its any use.
  P
  
  
  From: Barbara Neish [mailto:neishnook@ibl.bm]
  Sent: 20 April 2012 16:24
  To: Pat Carson
  Subject: Elizabeth EDWARD - nee FORD with daughter Lena Ford EDWARD
  
  Elizabeth EDWARD - nee FORD with daughter Lena Ford EDWARD Visiting sister Isabella Neish nee Ford in Toronto - c 1920s
  
  Yes Pat
  You may add the Elizabeth FORD / George EDWARD branch - eliminating any living. My Grandmother, Isabella FORD died before I was born. Diane getting into the old box left by her sister, Elizabeth FORD has given me a whole chapter I knew nothing about. Pleased the sisters visited each other often.
  Lots of photos came my way. Thought you might like the one I have attached?
  Thank you for the 'other' Edward/Ford marriage. I see I do have them but listed as 'Frank & Mina'- I will correct that.
  You can claim Diane & I as your 4th Cousins . . .~!~ Yes, let's stay in touch.
  Barbara
  
  From: Barbara Neish ]
  Sent: 20 April 2012 16:24
  To: Pat Carson
  Subject: Elizabeth EDWARD - nee FORD with daughter Lena Ford EDWARD
  
  Elizabeth EDWARD - nee FORD with daughter Lena Ford EDWARD Visiting sister Isabella Neish nee Ford in Toronto - c 1920s
  
  Yes Pat
  You may add the Elizabeth FORD / George EDWARD branch - eliminating any living. My Grandmother, Isabella FORD died before I was born. Diane getting into the old box left by her sister, Elizabeth FORD has given me a whole chapter I knew nothing about. Pleased the sisters visited each other often.
  Lots of photos came my way. Thought you might like the one I have attached?
  Thank you for the 'other' Edward/Ford marriage. I see I do have them but listed as 'Frank & Mina'- I will correct that.
  You can claim Diane & I as your 4th[mailto:neishnook@ibl.bm]
  Sent: 22 April 2012 16:05
  To: Pat Carson
  Subject: Big Thank You - From Diane
  
  
  Subject: Re: Dewar & Edward Branches
  
  Barbara,
  
  It took me a few minutes to soak in all the information. There is a good possibility that this is correct. I am just sorry we do not have the connection to Ann or Jessie. But it looks like the Dewar mystery is solved.
  
  I will have to invest some more time and money to get the connection for Robert Edward to David Edward. Elizabeth told my Aunt that Robert's father was a horse trainer could that also be a coachman? Will look that up tonight.
  
  Please give a big thank you to Janet and Pat from me. Thank you for your part and the hug.
  
  Many hugs back to you.
  Diane.⁷