Isabella Ford

Isabella (Ford) Neish
Albert Guthrie Neish
1903

Neish family 1905
L-R: Francis Wylie Neish, Albert Guthrie Neish (behind), Francis Ford Neish (in front), Isabella Ford Neish, Isabella (Ford) Neish

Parents:

• Birth*: Isabella Ford was born on 28 September 1879 at 43 Glebe Place, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, .¹
• She was the daughter of David Ford harbour porter,foreman in hide and tallow store and Isabella Ritchie domestic servant.
• (Bride) Marriage*: Isabella Ford married Francis Wylie Neish, son of William Wylie Neish engineer, house proprietor and Mary Ann Powrie Mudie, on Wednesday, 19 April 1899 at Cathoilic Apostolic Church, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, .¹
• (Deceased) Death*: Isabella Ford died on 29 November 1931 at Toronto, Ontario, Canada, , at age 52.¹

• Married Name: As of 19 April 1899, her married name was Neish.
• (Spouse) Death: Her spouse Francis Wylie Neish died on 19 November 1940 at Lakeview, Ontario, Canada, .¹
• (Subject) Contact*: On 21 June 2004 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about Isabella Ford and Francis Wylie Neish, David Ford farmer, Jane Strachan, Jean Ford domestic servant, David Ford harbour porter,foreman in hide and tallow store, Isabella Ritchie domestic servant, David Ford grocer, Ann Ford, John Ford, Jessie Allan Ford, John Ford, Thomas Foord, Jannet Jarren, Thomas Ford, Elizabeth Steven, John Ford, Ann Gibson, Thomas Ford, Elizabeth Stormond, Isabel Ford, Alexander Ford, Elizabeth Ford, James Ford ag lab, Mary Dick, William Ford, John Ford ploughman, dairyman, vanman, Margaret Scott, Anne Colville Ford, David Ford, son Ford, Ann Gibson Ford domestic servant, George Key farm servant, harbour porter, James Ford railway carter, coachman, Mary Duncan, Elisabeth Ford, John Ford domestic servant gardener, Agnes Stewart Ford dress & mantle maker, housekeeper, William Ford iron moulder, Thomas Syme Ford bookseller, lorryman, carter, Jane Caldwell powerloom weaver, Mary Ford linen weaver, Jane Kennedy Ford, Margaret Ford powerloom weaver jute, Helen Traill Ford, David Ford grocers assistant, Janet Ford, Alexander Ford, James Ford, David Ford, William Ford, George Ford, George Ford, Elizabeth Ford and Mary Ford..²
• (Other subject) Contact: On 3 August 2004 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about David Ford farmer and Isabella Ford..³
  

  

  
• (Other subject) Contact: On 8 August 2004 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about Francis Wylie Neish and Isabella Ford..⁴
  

  

  
• (Other subject) Contact: On 9 September 2010 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about Francis Wylie Neish and Isabella Ford. Dundee Foundries & Neish
  From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Neish
  Sent: 09 September 2010 05:14
  To: angus@rootsweb.com
  Subject: Re: [ANGUS] One last brick wall
  
  Mary Wrote ::
  Friends,
  
  After breaking the Dundee back to back-to-back illegitimate kids. The census from 1851 finally answered my prayers, when I found my Alexander Powrie (h/o Christina Shanks) with his maternal grandparents, but his name was recorded Lornie on index! Using an open mind as to spelling was vital.
  
  I need help on my last one. First it starts first with a Jacob Powrie, a forename I've never seen in Scotland and a tree given me about 1830 in Dundalk, Scotland? I've found a village in Ireland by that name, and there is one Canada. Any ideas of names it could really be John or Joseph? Is there any old foundries around Dundee. He and his son were molders in a foundry.
  Again the census from 1900 said they were Laundrymen, and looking at the enumeration sheet is hard to read but definitely Foundry not Laundry.
  
  
  Hello Mary from Oregon
  
  I can pull up two ancestors of mine with connection to Dundee Foundries. If I can successfully put a few details into an understandable scenario, just MAYBE you can see what makes me think that following some old Foundry records, just might, lead you to your Foundry men, JACOB POWRIE and his son.
  
  LILLYBANK FOUNDRY - Owned by my G-Grandfather, WILLIAM WYLIE NEISH in partnership with a Mr. Steele
  My G Grandfather would marry Mary Ann Powrie Mudie (Daughter of William Mudie & Janet Knight - (Janet's Parents William Knight & Jean Kidd)
  
  WALLACE FOUNDRY - Owned by a cousin JAMES GUTHRIE ORCHAR (Son of Alexander Orchar and Agnes Kidd) in a partnership with William Robertson (1825-99) took over the Wallace Foundry and the pair went on to develop the well-known firm of textile machinery manufacturers, Robertson & Orchar. This company was responsible for designing and equipping numerous jute and flax mills in E Scotland, as well as supplying machinery internationally.
  
  Here are some names and dates I will mention in my little 'saga' that follows ::
  My Great-Grandfather William Wylie Neish - Born 1830 - Macao, Canton, China - Died November 8, 1892. - Murray Hill Hospital Perth, Perthshire
  He Married Oct 23. 1873 Broughty Ferry, Scotland
  My Great-Grandmother Mary Ann Powrie Mudie - Born April 4, 1854 Monifieth, Angus, Scotland - Died Oct 8. 1886 at 36 Ferry Rd. St.Andrews, Dundee, Scotland
  
  My Grandfather
  Francis Wylie Neish - Born 1879 - Dundee - Married Isabella Ford
  My Father Albert Guthrie Neish - Born Dundee 1902
  
  I had a few curiosities - ONE - how my bachelor GGrandfather at age 43 came to meet and marry the young spinster of only 19 years of age. - a SECOND curiosity was why my father ALBERT GUTHRIE NEISH was given the middle name of GUTHRIE.
  
  The LILLYBANK FOUNDRY would hold the answer to both mysteries.
  I came to learn that my Mudie GG-Grandmother had a cousin - JAMES GUTHRIE ORCHAR. Engineer, industrialist and philanthropist. Born in Dundee, who became draughtsman to at the Lilybank Foundry and I would say he introduce my WILLIAM WYLIE NEISH to his cousin's daughter, the young MARY ANN POWRIE MUDIE. They would have two sons, JAMES GEDDES NEISH & my Grandfather, FRANCIS WYLIE NEISH. Francis would marry Isabella Ford and name my father ALBERT GUTHRIE NEISH.
  
  My G-grandmother died young and my G-grandfather was hospitalized for the remainder of his life after a fall and head injury. The two young sons were then raised my their Mudie Grandparents and, I would think the cousin James Guthrie Orher was very much a part of the household - enough that my Grandfather would honour him when naming his own son Albert Guthrie Neish.
  
  However - those two mysteries now solved - still left me with a THIRD mystery - why did my Mudie Grandparents give the middle name of POWRIE to their daughter Mary Ann?
  Was there another connection to the Lillybank Foundry or with my Mudie (nee Knight) GG-Grandmother or with the cousin Orchar?
  
  As you are trying to identify your JACOB POWRIE with a FOUNDRY connection, might there be a tiny thread from my family you might follow? Maybe we can BOTH solve our POWRIE mystery? Have I made my story too complicated?
  
  Best Regards
  Barbara Neish
  Bermuda.⁵

Census & Directory Entries

Member of Household	3 April 1881	They was listed as a member of the household of David Ford harbour porter,foreman in hide and tallow store and Isabella Ritchie domestic servant in the 1881 census at 44 Lilybank Road, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . Isabella Ford, daug, 1, Dundee; David Ford, head, mar, 39, foreman in hide and tallow store, Craig, Forfarshire; Isabella Ritchie or Ford, wife, mar, 41, Barry Forfarshire;Jane Allan or Ritchie, wid, mother-in-law, 83, Kirkden Forfarshire.6
Member of Household	5 April 1891	They was listed as a member of the household of David Ford harbour porter,foreman in hide and tallow store in the 1891 census at 5 Baffin Street, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . Isabella Ford, daug, 11, scholar, Dundee; David Ford, head, 48, clerk unemployed, b Craig.7