Francis Wylie Neish

Francis Wylie Neish
1903

Neish family 1905
L-R: Francis Wylie Neish, Albert Githrie Neish (behind), Francis Ford Neish (in front), Isabella Ford Neish, Isabella (Ford) Neish

Parents:

• Birth*: Francis Wylie Neish was born on 15 January 1879 at 80 Nethergate, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, .^2,1
• He was the son of William Wylie Neish engineer, house proprietor and Mary Ann Powrie Mudie.¹
• (Groom) Marriage*: Francis Wylie Neish married Isabella Ford, daughter of David Ford harbour porter,foreman in hide and tallow store and Isabella Ritchie domestic servant, on Wednesday, 19 April 1899 at Cathoilic Apostolic Church, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, .²
• (Deceased) Death*: Francis Wylie Neish died on 19 November 1940 at Lakeview, Ontario, Canada, , at age 61.²

• (Spouse) Death: His spouse Isabella Ford died on 29 November 1931 at Toronto, Ontario, Canada, .²
• (Other subject) Contact: On 21 June 2004 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about Isabella Ford and Francis Wylie Neish..³
• (Other subject) Contact: On 3 August 2004 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about David Ford farmer and Francis Wylie Neish..⁴
  

  

  
• (Subject) Contact: On 8 August 2004 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about Francis Wylie Neish and Isabella Ford, Albert Guthrie Neish, Isabella Ford Neish, Jessica Spaulding Neish, Margaret Scott Key domestic servant, machinist, Agnes Jane Stewart Ford nurse, Georgina Key tailoress, Edith Margaret Ford, Archibald Hall Ford of Messrs Mackinnon, Mackenzie Co., Colombo, Annie Gibson Ford, Jane Duncan Ford, William Scott Ford mill mechanic, marine engineer, James Ford railway carter, coachman, Mary Duncan, Wilhelmina Scott Ford assistant cashier, Lizzie Key jute weaver and Helen Key sack machinist..⁵
  

  

  
• (Subject) Contact*: On 9 September 2010 there was contact from Barbara Ruth Neish contact about Francis Wylie Neish and Isabella Ford and Albert Guthrie Neish. Dundee Foundries & Neish
  From: angus-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:angus-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Barbara Neish
  Sent: 09 September 2010 05:14
  To: angus@rootsweb.com
  Subject: Re: [ANGUS] One last brick wall
  
  Mary Wrote ::
  Friends,
  
  After breaking the Dundee back to back-to-back illegitimate kids. The census from 1851 finally answered my prayers, when I found my Alexander Powrie (h/o Christina Shanks) with his maternal grandparents, but his name was recorded Lornie on index! Using an open mind as to spelling was vital.
  
  I need help on my last one. First it starts first with a Jacob Powrie, a forename I've never seen in Scotland and a tree given me about 1830 in Dundalk, Scotland? I've found a village in Ireland by that name, and there is one Canada. Any ideas of names it could really be John or Joseph? Is there any old foundries around Dundee. He and his son were molders in a foundry.
  Again the census from 1900 said they were Laundrymen, and looking at the enumeration sheet is hard to read but definitely Foundry not Laundry.
  
  
  Hello Mary from Oregon
  
  I can pull up two ancestors of mine with connection to Dundee Foundries. If I can successfully put a few details into an understandable scenario, just MAYBE you can see what makes me think that following some old Foundry records, just might, lead you to your Foundry men, JACOB POWRIE and his son.
  
  LILLYBANK FOUNDRY - Owned by my G-Grandfather, WILLIAM WYLIE NEISH in partnership with a Mr. Steele
  My G Grandfather would marry Mary Ann Powrie Mudie (Daughter of William Mudie & Janet Knight - (Janet's Parents William Knight & Jean Kidd)
  
  WALLACE FOUNDRY - Owned by a cousin JAMES GUTHRIE ORCHAR (Son of Alexander Orchar and Agnes Kidd) in a partnership with William Robertson (1825-99) took over the Wallace Foundry and the pair went on to develop the well-known firm of textile machinery manufacturers, Robertson & Orchar. This company was responsible for designing and equipping numerous jute and flax mills in E Scotland, as well as supplying machinery internationally.
  
  Here are some names and dates I will mention in my little 'saga' that follows ::
  My Great-Grandfather William Wylie Neish - Born 1830 - Macao, Canton, China - Died November 8, 1892. - Murray Hill Hospital Perth, Perthshire
  He Married Oct 23. 1873 Broughty Ferry, Scotland
  My Great-Grandmother Mary Ann Powrie Mudie - Born April 4, 1854 Monifieth, Angus, Scotland - Died Oct 8. 1886 at 36 Ferry Rd. St.Andrews, Dundee, Scotland
  
  My Grandfather
  Francis Wylie Neish - Born 1879 - Dundee - Married Isabella Ford
  My Father Albert Guthrie Neish - Born Dundee 1902
  
  I had a few curiosities - ONE - how my bachelor GGrandfather at age 43 came to meet and marry the young spinster of only 19 years of age. - a SECOND curiosity was why my father ALBERT GUTHRIE NEISH was given the middle name of GUTHRIE.
  
  The LILLYBANK FOUNDRY would hold the answer to both mysteries.
  I came to learn that my Mudie GG-Grandmother had a cousin - JAMES GUTHRIE ORCHAR. Engineer, industrialist and philanthropist. Born in Dundee, who became draughtsman to at the Lilybank Foundry and I would say he introduce my WILLIAM WYLIE NEISH to his cousin's daughter, the young MARY ANN POWRIE MUDIE. They would have two sons, JAMES GEDDES NEISH & my Grandfather, FRANCIS WYLIE NEISH. Francis would marry Isabella Ford and name my father ALBERT GUTHRIE NEISH.
  
  My G-grandmother died young and my G-grandfather was hospitalized for the remainder of his life after a fall and head injury. The two young sons were then raised my their Mudie Grandparents and, I would think the cousin James Guthrie Orher was very much a part of the household - enough that my Grandfather would honour him when naming his own son Albert Guthrie Neish.
  
  However - those two mysteries now solved - still left me with a THIRD mystery - why did my Mudie Grandparents give the middle name of POWRIE to their daughter Mary Ann?
  Was there another connection to the Lillybank Foundry or with my Mudie (nee Knight) GG-Grandmother or with the cousin Orchar?
  
  As you are trying to identify your JACOB POWRIE with a FOUNDRY connection, might there be a tiny thread from my family you might follow? Maybe we can BOTH solve our POWRIE mystery? Have I made my story too complicated?
  
  Best Regards
  Barbara Neish
  Bermuda.⁶