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Susan Lyall Guthrie

F, #1635, b. circa 1840, d. after 28 August 1914
Last Edited: 24 Jun 2019
Susan Guthrie Sheill

Parents:

Father*: Colonel (?) Guthrie2 d. b Jun 912
  • Birth*: Susan Lyall Guthrie was born circa 1840.
  • She was the daughter of Colonel (?) Guthrie.2
  • (Bride) Marriage*: Susan Lyall Guthrie married John Shiell, son of William Shiell and Mary Russell, on 24 July 1863 at Brechin, Forfarshire, Scotland, .
  • (Deceased) Death*: Susan Lyall Guthrie died after 28 August 1914 from Lyall Guthrie's Attestation papers.3
  • Married Name: As of 24 July 1863, her married name was Shiell.
  • Photograph*: John Shiell and Susan Lyall Guthrie are in this photograph taken circa 1887 along with William Shiell, Helen Scott Shiell, David Guthrie Shiell, Susan Mary Shiell, John Shiell, Herbert Shiell, Catherine Jane Shiell, Arnold Shiell, Robert Shiell, Buchanan Shiell, Alexander Guthrie Shiell and Lyall Guthrie Shiell.4
    John Shiell and Susan Lyall Guthrie with many of their family c 1887
  • (Spouse) Death: Her spouse John Shiell died on 21 June 1912 at Latch Road, Brechin, Forfarshire, Scotland, ; 1912 deaths in the district of Brechin in the county of Forfar, ref 74; John Shiell, Solicitor before Supreme Court, married to Susan Lyall Guthrie, died 1912 June Twenty-first 11h 0m pm Latch Road Brechin, male aged 70, parents William Shiell Clerk of Session (dec) and Mary Russell (dec), cause senile decay, syncope, as certified by LB Adams MD; signed David G Shiell, son, Dalhousie Lodge, Edzell, regsitered 1912 June 22nd at Brechin Chas V Mills registrar.5
  • (Witness) Newspaper Article: Susan Lyall Guthrie and David Guthrie Shiell, John Nicolson, James Davie Gilruth and Samuel Macauley was mentioned in a newspaper article about John Shiell on 28 June 1912. DEATH OF MR JOHN SHIELL, S.S.C.,
    BRECHIN.
    The death of Mr John Shiell, solicitor, took place at his residence, Latch Road, Brechin, on Friday night. Mr Shiell, who had just celebrated his 70th birthday, had been absent from home for some time and only returned on Saturday. Although somewhat frail, he was in his usual health, and was out during Friday. In the evening, feeling not very well, he retired to bed, and expired shortly after eleven o'clock.
    Mr Shiell was a native of Edinburgh, being a son of the late Mr William Shiell, for many years one of the chief Clerks of the Court of Session. After serving for some time in the office of Messrs Shiell & Small, solicitors, Dundee, the senior partner of that firm being his uncle, he came to Brechin about 40 years ago as partner to the late Mr D. D. Black, Town Clerk. The partnership did not last very long, and on leaving Mr Black Mr Shiell commenced business on his own account, and soon built up a sound connection in the district. Shortly after commencing business he was appointed agent of the National Bank, a position he held at the time of his death. In 1880, on the death of the grandfather of the present Earl of Dalhousie, he was appointed factor on the Brechin Castle and Edzell estates of the Dalhousie family, and later, on the death of his father-in-law, the late Colonel Guthrie, Carlogie House, Carnoustie, he was appointed sole factor on the estates. During the time of the late Earl many improvements were carried out on the estates, while a most liberal form of lease was drawn up for the tenants, a form that became a model for progressive landlords, and it was well-known at that time that Mr Shiell was in a large measure responsible for the form it ultimately took. In addition, the comfort of the cottars and farm servants on the estate were not overlooked, comfortable cottages being erected on the farms, and in this work Mr Shiell also gave valuable assistance.
    In 1903 Mr Shiell, finding the burden of the estate work getting too heavy for him, retired from the factorship, being succeeded by his son, Mr D. G. Shiell. He was, however, continued as confidential adviser, and performed the duties of that position to the last. On his retiral from the factorship he was entertained by the employees on the Brechin Castle and Edzell estates at a cake and wine banquet, and was made the recipient of a solid silver rose bowl, suitably inscribed.
    In addition to his factorship of the Dalhousie Estates, Mr Shiell also acted as factor for a number of other estates, and carried on a large general business as a solicitor. For many years the late Mr James Don was associated with him as partner, and on the death of that gentleman, he assumed his son. Mr D. G. Shiell, as partner. Of recent years. Mr Shiell, while regularly attending at the office, had not taken an active part in the business of the firm. He had been & Director of the Brechin and Edzell District Railway since the formation of the Company, and was also a Director of Guthrie, Martin, & Company, Ltd. He was for long a member of the County Council, and took an active part in the work of the Brechin District Committee. He was also an Hon. Sheriff Substitute for the County of Forfar. A Unionist in politics, he never took any very active part in political matters. He was a member of St Andrew's Episcopal Church, and took a warm interest in the welfare of the congregation. He was married to a daughter of the late Colonel Guthrie of Carlogie House, by whom he is survived, and by a family of sons and daughters.
    The funeral of deceased took place on Tuesday, the pall bearers being :-Mr D. G. Shiell and Mr Buchanan Shiell (sons), Dr Gilruth, Arbroath (son-in-law); Rev. Dr Samuel Macaulay. Mr D. Sharp (Fast Drums), Mr Sharp, W.S. (Edinburgh); Mr Guthrie (Broughty Ferry): and ex. Provost Scott (Brechin).2

Census Events

Spouse3 April 1881She was listed in the household of John Shiell in the 1881 census at 12 Latch Road, Brechin, Forfarshire, Scotland, . John Shiell, head, mar, 47, solicitor before Supreme Courts, Edinburgh; Susan L Shiell, wife, mar, 40, Brechin; Elizabeth Swankie, sev, unm, 30, cook, Dundee; Annie Greene, serv, unm, 23, housemaid, Carmylie; Jane Nelson, unm, 28, nurse, Brechin; Eliabeth P Thomson, unm, 20, under nurse, Brechin. Helen Scott Shiell, David Guthrie Shiell, Susan Mary Shiell, John Shiell, Herbert Shiell, Catherine Jane Shiell, Arnold Shiell and Robert Shiell were also listed in the household.6
Spouse5 April 1891She was listed in the household of John Shiell in the 1891 census at 28 Latch Road, Brechin, Forfarshire, Scotland, . John Shiell, head, mar, 58, solicitor before Supreme Courts, employer, Edinburgh; Susan L Shiell, wife, mar, 50, Brechin; Eliza Thomson, unm, 34, nurse, Brechin; Agnes Robertson, serv, unm, 28, housemaid, Ceres; Mary Ann Marr, serv, unm, 29, cook, Inverarity; Elizabeth Rattery, serv, unm, 15, under housemaid, Arbirlot; 13 rooms with windows. Helen Scott Shiell, John Shiell, Herbert Shiell, Catherine Jane Shiell, Arnold Shiell, Robert Shiell, Buchanan Shiell and Lyall Guthrie Shiell were also listed in the household.7
The Latch, Brechin
Spouse31 March 1901She was listed in the household of John Shiell in the 1901 census at 38 Latch Road, Brechin, Forfarshire, Scotland, . ? John on previous page ?; Susan L Shiell, wife, mar, 60, Brechin; Joan Brand, serv, unm, 26, tablemaid, Glenbervie; Margaret S Henderson, serv, unm, 18, housemaid, Stracathro; Mary Milne, serv, unm, 42, cook, St Cyrus. Catherine Jane Shiell and Buchanan Shiell were also listed in the household.7

Family:

John Shiell b. 4 Apr 1833, d. 21 Jun 1912

Children:

William Shiell b. 8 May 1864, d. a 1939
Helen Scott Shiell b. 18 May 1866, d. 1941
David Guthrie Shiell+ b. 25 Nov 1868, d. 22 Mar 1914
Susan Mary Shiell b. 10 Apr 1871, d. 1943
John Shiell b. 17 May 1873
Herbert Shiell b. c 1874
Catherine Jane Shiell b. 1876
Arnold Shiell+ b. c 1878, d. a 1939
Robert Shiell b. c 1880
Buchanan Shiell+ b. c 1882, d. 1962
Alexander Guthrie Shiell b. c 1883
Lyall Guthrie Shiell b. c 1885, d. bt Jul 1972 - Sep 1972

Citations

  1. [S1] International Genealogical Index (IGI) (Salt Lake City, Utah, USA: International Genealogical Index), via FB RS [Dec 2018].
  2. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) Newspapers collection, Montrose review [Dec 2018].
  3. [S9] Website Ancestry.co.uk (www.ancestry.co.uk) Ancestry.com. British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2008.
    Original data:
    War Office: Soldiers’ Documents, First World War ‘Burnt Documents’ (Microfilm Copies); (The National Archives Microfilm Publication WO363); Records created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies; The National Archives of the UK (TNA), Kew, Surrey, England. [Jan 2011]
  4. [S40] RS [Jan 2012].
  5. [S50] General Record Office for Scotland, online www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, General Record Office for Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland), GROS Statutory Death 1912 Brechin, ref 74.
  6. [S30] LDS 1881 Census.
  7. [S17] General Record Office for Scotland, online www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, General Record Office for Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland).
  8. [S1] International Genealogical Index (IGI), RS [Jan 2012].